Kyle Berkshire Nails The MCS Setup Theory

I haven’t invented anything with my work on the MCS Golf Swing models over the years – I spent the first part of my research looking only at the greatest swingers ever and compiling a list of things they did in common.

The first thing of course, was seeing that every great player in history when you talk of the absolute greatest swingers, used the Classic Golf Swing.

You’ll likely say, “Hey, what about Tiger Woods? He uses the Modern Golf Swing.”

“That’s right,” I’d respond, “and Tiger Woods is the exception that proves the rule when it comes to the greatest champions in golf – he was the only one who didn’t use the Classic Golf Swing, and what is he doing right now?”

Tiger Woods, I like to say, has or will have had the worst, absolute worst swing model, with regards to mechanical-correctness, of the greatest champions.

I am at great risk of digression here, so I will ask you all to bear with the subject at hand – Kyle Berkshire – and I’ll have more on Tiger Woods and the Modern Golf Swing after I discuss his setup point.

The matter at hand is a part of the setup, a very important part of it.

If you look at Kyle below:


He is talking about building a “Leaning A” stance over the ball, and he will address this crucial point in the first of his “3 Secret Things” he does.

Well, it’s no secret, Point 1 – I’ve been making videos for 15 years and I don’t remember ever not talking about the importance of spine tilt.  I certainly was talking about it when I built the first iteration of what is now the MCS Golf Swing model back in 2015, so that’s ten years ago.

Moving on, here is what Kyle says about this:


I don’t know how many of you were around in the late ’00s when the pundits were swooning about everything Tiger Woods did, even to the way he walked and stood, and yet when he was at his best and around the time of the Tiger Slam, this was his setup with the driver:


You see how nearly vertical is spine was in 2001?  And you would have pundits talking about how wonderfully “level” he was with his shoulders, and other assorted nonsense.

It was not a mechanically-sound way to stand over the ball, sorry.

Even the year before his last major win, he was setting up like this, even worse than 2001:


Doing exactly what Kyle says not to be doing when he talks about spine tilt, am I right?

Even if you go back to his amateur days, TW was set up over the ball in a way I found problematic when I went back through his years, this from ’93:


And this is why I say TW had the worst swing mechanically of the greatest champions, because he has never learned, even going on 50, the first basic thing about setting up for a mechanically-sound swing.

And the greatest swingers were Classic Golf Swingers – let me tell you why.

If you run down a list of the greatest champions ever, Tiger Woods is among very few Modern Swingers anywhere near that list.

Even the best modern players not including Tiger Woods, swung in the Classic style – Vijay Singh, Phil Mickelson (when he wasn’t tinkering with Modern nonsense), and you will get all the way down to Rory McIlroy in 20th spot for most PGA Tour wins, if you like that category.

And Rory has been known to dabble in the Classic Golf Swing method, I’ve blogged over the years looking at his swing.

As for major winners, you skip Tiger again and see Nick Faldo in 12th, then get all the way down to Brooks Koepka in 15th place with five before you get to Ernie Els and Rory McIroy tied for 21st.

If these players in the Modern Golf Swing era are so good, why aren’t they winning more majors and Tour events?  Especially since they’re all playing against others swinging the same way?

The answer is that with the Modern Golf Swing, no player can remain healthy or on his swing game long enough to do so – they come and go, some with a flash (Jordan Spieth – all but two of his Tours came in a four-year span from ’13-’17), others hang around a little longer.

No one can master the Modern Golf Swing long enough to climb that list, again with the exception of Tiger Woods, who basically destroyed his body in the quest to catch Classic-swinging Jack Nicklaus.

So, it’s the Classic Golf Swing that is the manner in which to swing, and make sure of that spine tilt, as Kyle Berkshire says!

8 thoughts on “Kyle Berkshire Nails The MCS Setup Theory

  1. neil james massa's avatarneil james massa

    hey there DJ. I’d forgotten about the importance of spine tilt so thanks for the reminder 👍 should the amount of spine tilt be constant from driver through to wedge or does it vary?

    1. DJ Watts's avatarDJ Watts Post author

      Welcome, Neil! I’ve found the tilt is around the same for all clubs you should try to achieve a consistent degree 👍🏼

  2. AK's avatarsilly9ab7a2bd73

    The spine tilt is an important (maybe most important next to grip) but forgotten aspect of the set up.

  3. AK's avatarsilly9ab7a2bd73

    Do you feel that the head size and length of the current drivers makes swinging them feel awkward? I know they say it makes drives easier,and that’s certainly true;but setting up with them feels so awkward because of the head size and shaft length.Especially if you have the misfortune of teeing off of a teebox that isn’t level with the ball often above your foot lol (I may or may not be talking about my club)

    1. DJ Watts's avatarDJ Watts Post author

      I think the shaft length and head size definitely affect how one swings the club. The size of the head can be disorienting when trying to set up over the ball, especially if you played golf before the 2000’s and remember the stainless steel shafts and persimmon/stainless heads. When you lengthen the shaft, you change the angle that it comes out of the head, so that is a major difference from the more upright, shorter-shafted drivers.

      Of course, all of that is negated by the massive advantage derived from the larger, more forgiving heads.

      If I were asked about a rollback on drivers, I would point to the Callaway Big Bertha stainless steel driver from the 90’s. For the average sized player, one shouldn’t need a longer shaft than the old standard 43.5″ and certainly, especially for the pros, a larger head than that.

      When you look at the difference between the old Big Bertha beside my TaylorMade RBZ, you know that the stewards of the game dropped the ball allowing this to happen in the pro game:

      1. AK's avatarsilly9ab7a2bd73

        Ha! Crazy that was considered big at the time! I agree that’s the ideal size limit.

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