Ben Hogan’s Pivot In His Own Words

I’m beginning to wonder if Ben Hogan deliberately left out the back pivot in this video clip where he describes the action of the down swing involved the hips and legs.

He doesn’t have to, of course, because if you just LOOK at what he’s doing on the back pivot, it’s obvious that he’s using the hips and legs to create the position at the top.

He only talks about the mechanics from the top, and that he didn’t correct the blatant errors in describing his swing mechanics just about everywhere his swing was discussed, I have a suspicion that he didn’t care to correct them, which would have been classic Ben Hogan.

“I’ve shown you all how to do it, and I’ve explained it, now go figure it out,” would be something Ben Hogan certainly could have had as his attitude towards others learning his swing.

As I say, he doesn’t say a word about the back pivot, but watch his hips and legs as he performs it, it’s not as though he’s doing it in the dark:


This clip has been around forever, long before the age of internet, so I am going to say something that people might find harsh, but here we go:


There Hogan is at the top, and he has a full shoulder turn, of course.

Now, this is the harsh part – if someone is being paid to teach or describe to others the mechanics of a golf swing, and they have seen Hogan swing (they have to have, because we here on this blog sure have), and they are not even noting the following points of Hogan’s back pivot:


  1. Green Arrow – Hogan’s full hip turn,
  2. Red Arrow – His straightened right leg at the top,
  3. Blue Arrow – His left thigh past vertical and
  4. Yellow Arrow – His obviously lifted leading heel

… if someone is being paid to teach or discuss the golf swing, and when discussing or “teaching” Ben Hogan’s swing, they miss the above positions, the positions that show and prove conclusively that Hogan swung in the Classic Golf Swing style with the free hip turn and lifting leading heel, they are either incompetent or lying about how he swung.

Same with anyone telling people that Hogan had a “squat” move his down swing.

He didn’t:


He had a bit of a shift toward the target as he initiated his down swing at times if you watch his head, as above, but there was never any “squatting” move to begin it.

Nor does he ever suggest it, as you can see and hear in the above clip.


So, people are either lying about his swing or don’t know their knee from their elbow.

Either way, they are frauds, because there is no possible 3rd option.

They either have no clue what they’re talking about or they’re deliberately misleading the public for the sake of the Modern Golf Swing, because you can not swing like Ben Hogan if you are swinging in the Modern Golf Swing style.

Hogan’s was a Classic Golf Swing with the purest pivot action I’ve ever seen, so pure that I dubbed it the “Perfect Pivot” back in 2014.

Anything I have ever presented on this blog or any of my other blogs in the past has always been offered in good faith that I knew that about which I spoke.

I have been wrong in the past, of course – part of the hazard of running a golf swing research blog and learning things as you go – and I have always nearly broken my leg to get to my computer upon realizing an error, in order to correct the record as it stood on my blog.

Such as when I noticed for the first time that I was not following my own instructions on the grip because I was taking my grip instinctively and unconsciously as a left-hander swinging right (I’m actually cross-dominant but I was definitely swinging left-dominant), back in 2022.

Was it embarrassing? Of course it was – I should have seen it, and I would have if looking at someone else, but I was blind to my own flaw.

Did it make me feel foolish?

Oh yes.

But it is what it is.

To lie to people about something, or to pretend I knew what I was talking about when I didn’t, and to accept compensation in any form, has never occurred to me.

The greatest problem in golf right now is that – people making exorbitant amounts of money either lying through their teeth to people about the golf swing or pretending that they know what they’re talking about when they don’t.

Sometimes, you just have to say that something is what it is, even if it isn’t pleasant.

It’s a sad state of affairs.

2 thoughts on “Ben Hogan’s Pivot In His Own Words

  1. AK's avatarsilly9ab7a2bd73

    Great edit. It’s stunning in the age of youtube that instructors and “experts” can actually get away with uttering nonsense.

    1. DJ Watts's avatarDJ Watts Post author

      Critical thinking goes out the window in the modern golf world, it seems.

      What absolutely floors me is, if you’re going to take someone’s word for how something is being done, and you have the actual model (Ben Hogan swinging on video), wouldn’t you at the very least confirm what you’re being told by observing said model?

      I foolishly took it as gospel that Hogan swung a certain way because people were saying so, but the second I got wiser and decided to check it out for myself, it was patently obvious what Hogan did, and it wasn’t what they were all saying.

      A lesson learned that I’ve never forgotten.

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