I had made this gif. from the found raw video tutorials I had unearthed last month but was feeling too ill to write a post about it.
Today is a little better, so I wanted to share what was watching and listening to, and how it mirrors Ben Hogan’s hand action drill nearly exactly.
I will swear that I had never seen that drill from Hogan when I shot the “E = MCS” video – when I wrote about it earlier was when I really remember seeing it, so let’s take a look.
It’s a drill that proves no one out there hawking a Hogan-type swing method knows what they’re talking about, as well, because you see all of these guys manipulating the hands and club through the impact zone:
Notice how he’s being taught to keep the wrist angle going through impact, and this is so far from correct, it’s not even wrong.
Watch Ben Hogan show the proper cocking and releasing of the hands, coordinated with keeping his upper arms attached to the chest and using body rotation to fuel the swing, but watch his hands carefully:
Now, Hogan was showing how the Classic Golf Swing pivot rotates the body so that you can swing the club, but he was also demonstrating the simple hand action that goes with a neutral, even a weak grip.
Here below is an excerpt from the “E = MCS” tutorial footage, and you can see that I’m on the same principle but using it to show the hand action on the back pivot and down through impact:
Actually, I was illustrating two things here, one of which is the hand action. The other, I’ll discuss as well in the video.
It just goes to show you that that a mechanically-sound golf swing from two different people will give you much of the same principles and actions, even thought I don’t swing like Hogan did and I only use his pivot.
The hand and arm action are also nearly identical – it’s Hogan’s precise setup, his shift off the ball and shift back on the down swing, along with his swinging left (due to his alignment in his setup, not any particular action), that I find impractical and un-optimal.
That’s about all I can manage for today, but I am sitting with my laptop in bed and just remembered that I had already created the gifs and pics!
I’ll be back soon.
WAX Golf 
I saw another person online weaponizing moe norman’s swing – touting how his face is always square to path in the single plane swing with that strong right hand (since the wrist cocks along the plane instead of off of it)
Then they admitted that this strategy limits the power you can get – so then they related it to the ~coveted~ wrist bow morikawa and dustin johnson have, saying that a modern swing with wrist bow accomplishes the same square to path face throughout the swing and allows you to add modern power to moe’s straightness
It amazed me what lengths people will go to draw a few lines on a video, throw technical jargon then film hitting a single straight shot and claiming they’ve solved all your golf issues 🤣
Literally doing everything but setting up the ball correctly
Exactly…
There will never be another Moe Norman – his swing was unique to him and can’t be replicated with any success because it lacks power, as you point out.
It was a half-swing, and I am pretty sure I could hit the ball dead straight if I hit balls for hours a day with a half-swing.
Not only that, the swing Norman is known for isn’t the one that made him famous. He became famous when he won back to back Canadian Amateur Championships and played twice in the Masters, as Can Am champs received invites back then.
The swing he had then, when Ben Hogan remarked on his straightness, was far more conventional than the clownish one he developed later:
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Classic Golf Swing pivot, full swing and a sliding foot release. Nothing like the one he became known for.
it’s hard to believe moe used to swing so fast.
Aye – he won the Canadian Amateur in ’55 and ’56, and this is how he was swinging in ’57 when he and Sam Snead were doing a clinic:
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Full swing with a Classic Golf Swing pivot action, and you can see how extended he was becoming down the line. But still a Classic Golf Swing.
His latest and most known swing was something that he developed long after he’d become known for his ball-striking accuracy. Probably even straighter than when he was young, but a ridiculous model for a swinger to try to emulate.
Was watching MCS DTL views and noticed that shorter shots / clubs with lower clubhead speed, the arms at impact are pretty much hanging like they are at address.
Meanwhile with longer clubs like driver with high clubhead speed, the arms at impact seem to extend straight even if they were more relaxed / hanging at impact (guessing centripetal “force” extends the arms naturally at impact)
You mentioned a while back that the arms extended setup doesn’t really work because it turns the gravity drop into a rotary motion which is inefficient leverage.
How do we manage to not strike the heel if we setup with arms relaxed for the faster swings with longer clubs at impact? Is it because the back straightens a bit at impact which pulls us away from the ball just enough to make centered contact?
It’s all in the setup process, Kaushal. In fact, I was just going over that part earlier in the video tutorial. Several things will affect how the arms hang because we have different body type and at times different lengths and lies to our clubs compared to others. For one example, the shortest clubs like the wedges make one’s address more tilted with the spine, allowing the arms to hang vertically more naturally than with a much longer driver.
Rest assured, the setup process is effective. I can’t remember the last time I missed the sweet spot by much to the toe or heel.
thanks for clearing that up – time for me to turn off the thinking cap until the video drops 😭 😂
Not at all, Kaushal 😂
You’re a keen student and I am impressed with what you’ve picked up thus far.
Now, if you start thinking about the golf swing more than I have in the past twenty years, you may just have a little problem 😂😂