I Was So Close In 2015 – Just The Grip!

While idly browsing through swing clips from various years, I came upon a range session I’d had in May of 2015, which was as I mentioned previously the year the MCS Classic Golf Swing model was born.

While watching how I set up to the ball at that time and looking at my arm attitude, I nearly fell out of my chair – I may have been left-dominant but it was so slight, I was closer to the optimal setup routine, stance and motion than I would be for years.

It is exactly what I referred to when I said I was crossing myself up for years with the wrong side focus on the setup:


Unfortunately, I spent a good time of 2015-16 working with other swingers on their own issues so, while the model was essentially what it is now (except for the elimination of the angled stance line concept), I would take another half-decade before I came back to what I’d been doing while building the model.

On the face-on setup and action, it is nearly exactly what I would want to see in the model, but for the stance width and the not-standard grip:


On the swing itself, fabulously stable head position indicating a near-optimal setup, and the only issues I’d have would have been the slightly high top position and past-parallel position of the club before transition:


Man, that downswing move…


So, I had this 7 years ago, just about there but for a few adjustments.

Time wasted?

Could say that, but I may never have figured it all out at all, so I won’t lament or complain.

I also wasn’t using the process I’m currently using, but it was a pretty good attempt using what I had at the time, which was nothing more than pieced-together part of setup and swing based upon observing the greatest Classic Era swingers.


Looking down the line, I will point out as I mentioned the still-problematic left arm position, the angled stance line and other than being closer to the ball, that’s what I’d be looking for in the setup.

And that action/downswing plane:


That’s probably the most natural leverage I’ve had in a swing, and now when I think about it… it was October of 2015, just five months after this session, where I said I hit 130 mph club speed and 194 mph ball speed just playing around to see how fast I could go:


Looking at these swings from May ’15 though, I’m not surprised at the speeds I was generating at the time, and it was only that I was focused more on working with others than on my own swing that I went off track somewhere.

Now, having ironed out all of the wrinkles in both the model and my own execution of such, that I can see where I was bang-on and where I was lacking.

Not to mention, I was planning on a completely different posting for today before looking at the video clips, but the two are related and relevant one to the other!

6 thoughts on “I Was So Close In 2015 – Just The Grip!

  1. Keith Comley

    Hi DJ,

    I’m a big student of yours and Mike Dunaway, and just to comment on your post re. that 2015 video. I’ve watched the MD videos I think about 1000 times (nearly every day for several years) and your swing looks so close to it; ton of lag, maintained spine position, hip movement, motion through the hitting area (hands and release). Great find and thanks for posting it.

    Best wishes Keith

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    1. DJ Watts Post author

      Hi Keith!

      Is it AMAZING that you just posted this comment – the post I was going to write today before the video clips turned me around was on Dunaway and how I believe I’ve found the same leverage move.

      I would bet that if I hadn’t had this double-cross left-dominant problem at the time, I would have matched his swing mechanics is short order, as I’m doing now just a week after fixing my left-biased setup process.

      I will elaborate on this in the next posting. But your comment really set me back after what I was working on yesterday and this morning!!

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  2. Keith Comley

    Hi DJ,

    Meant to also comment on the ‘mythical’ C5 vertebra (or was it C8, can’t remember). MA and MD comment in various videos about it as the swing circle centre, but in my studies of their swings at the point of impact, it’s not true. It may be maintained during the backswing, but at impact, the left shoulder is precisely (millimeter perfect) where it is at takeaway (which gives the same measurement down the left arm to the ball as at address), and this becomes the fulcrum of the circle through the hitting zone, and not the C5 as stated. At impact the right shoulder dips down a few inches, the head moves right and down, the left shoulder comes down and I guess slightly left, and the C5 crucially moves downand I guess slightly left also. i.e. taking the shoulders as the plane, the C5 and right shoulder are on the plane, the left shoulder is the fulcrum, the head sits above the place, so rotating about the left shoulder would bring the head right, the right shoulder and C5 down and left.

    On another thing I noticed recently, if you watch the really old video of MA from the up-the-line view (ie. the one where he is hitting towards the camera in his plus fours), it’s a beautiful sight with his hips and body clearing and the club follows on behind. Check it out again, and you can just see his lead foot turns inwards, i.e. his whole foot becomes really open as he transitions. It’s not something I had seen until recently, isn’t on his other swing views, and not something MD needed to do. Whether it was something he did early on routinely I don’t know.

    All the best Keith

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    1. DJ Watts Post author

      It was the C7 and we’ll have to see how it shakes out when I’ve got the model nailed. But we are in full agreement that the C7 is or should be stable in the back pivot.

      There were differences in the two Mikes’ swing mechanics for sure – I think Dunaway’s was superior and his mentor said as much when questioned about it.

      Things are heating up, I hope to have some real fire in short order! 🔥🔥🔥

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  3. Keith Comley

    Sorry DJ,

    “the left shoulder comes down and I guess slightly left,” meant to be right shoulder down and slightly left.

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