Week 2 – Changes To Setup & Pivot Action – Getting There!

Well, what a difference a couple of changes make!

I made a setup change and worked on transitioning to a better pivot action than what I’d been making last week and the visual difference was striking when I got home to peruse the video evidence.

I’m not there yet – the pivot change felt very alien after years of Classic Swing pivot action based on Ben Hogan, but I made the changes from last week and when it began to click, I knew I was on the right path.

The thing with making changes, as I’ve said in the past, is that even a small change feels hugely departed from what you’re accustomed to feeling, so you have to really exaggerate the change, and even then, you probably didn’t go far enough.

I made progress, that’s for sure, and perhaps the next time out my “exaggerated” change upon which I’m working will fit the bill.

Here’s what I’ve got:

Driver – Face On

Driver – Down The Line

I’ll be discussing the differences with the changes I’ve made on the weekend, with an eye to being able to eventually describe the action in a way people can understand a little better than what they’ve been translating from Dunaway or Austin.

Granted, nothing they said was ever wrong, but I just keep coming back to the fact that if people understand clearly what they were saying on how to swing with this model, there would be people out there swinging this way (and while there are swingers who are close, they aren’t replicating that model), and making big waves with their speed and distances.

More to come!

14 thoughts on “Week 2 – Changes To Setup & Pivot Action – Getting There!

  1. jh32

    I am really looking forward to this. Have been working more on MD’s swing but not quite getting it. Your swing is getting very close to his so far and the sound of the ball coming off the face is good.

    1. D Watts Post author

      Good to see you JH! 🙂

      I made a big breakthrough on Thursday with the pivot action and I should be able to really get into it next time out.

      Don’t know how long this will take to nail down, but I’m getting pretty close. Not having either of the Mikes to give pointers means I have to do it all by feel and video basing off of their own teachings, but I’m having fun. More fun than with the Hogan pivot!

    1. D Watts Post author

      Thanks, erfudd0h:

      the short stop slide is just about gone, or maybe it is gone?

      Yes, it’s a much narrower stance than with the Classic Golf Swing MCS model, so much less movement in the trailing foot. However, I don’t know exactly how it will look until I’m there.

      Dunaway had a slide at times and then the delayed step-around other times, so I’ll be doing one or the other, just too early to tell.

      Stay tuned! 🙂

    1. D Watts Post author

      Greeting, doubou! Good to see you 🙂

      In response to your observations:

      – Yes
      – No and
      – No

      You’ve watched me swing for years with the Classic pivot so I can understand the impression of less hip and more arm. However, the hips are fully engaged in driving the swing:

      … and I have never used less arm in a swing than with this model. In fact, I’m still using too much arm, as evidenced by the high right elbow. It’s a very hard thing to eliminate quickly because we swing so much going by “feel,” and the lower tighter elbow feels so lacking in power, when it is the opposite.

      I’ll give it another tweak and try again in a couple of days. Hope to see you out there sometime this season!

      1. Adam Tarbaux

        Hey dj I’m been swinging this way for a while but never could figure it out fully because M.A and M.D were not the best instructors of their swing however I have learned a lot by reading your posts and I can’t wait to see what’s instore.

        1. D Watts Post author

          Thank you Adam! I would fully agree with you that the problem with this particular swing model is, with all due respect to Austin & Dunaway, something got lost in the translation.

          There is so much material on this model & the closer I get to the full Dunaway, the more amazed I am with how it just seems that people, including yours truly, couldn’t quite wrap our brains around what was being said vs what was translated from the teachings.

          I’m hoping that I can have the same success that I experienced explaining and demonstrating the Hogan pivot.

          Hopefully, we’ll soon see! 😀

  2. Adam Tarbaux

    I whole heartedly agree with that. There was a time that I was constantly slicing the ball but I kinda fixed it by doing the Hogan roll to square the club face I know it is a manipulated action and not good but until more is unearthed that’s the best I can do.

    1. D Watts Post author

      No worries, Adam – if I get it nailed down, I’ll let you all know exactly how I got it 😀

  3. SB

    Hey DJ.

    Hope all is well?
    When do I send money for the pre video for Dunaway?

    We should have a 416 Wax Day again?

    1. D Watts Post author

      Hello SB! Good to see you. We’re doing fab over here, thanks. How are things in the West end?

      Been a while since we’ve had a WAX Golf day, perhaps we should do that once all the restrictions have been eased enough to permit it.

      Still working on the model for Dunaway’s swing. The only way I feel comfortable making a video on it is after I’ve nailed the mechanics down myself – still got a little work to do, as I realized on yesterday looking at video from Thursday’s range session that I had misinterpreted the start of the pivot action. I had it during the winter but somehow let it slip when I got back to work on swinging.

      Rest assured, as soon as I have it nailed down from A to Z, I’ll let everyone else in on it!

      Best wishes to you and SB Jr. for the rest of the year 🙂

  4. jdhas1

    Hey DJ, really love seeing this stuff on MD. I looked at some of this years ago, but had to put away the game for a long while (life…). Now coming back to it and can finally re-engage. But, followed your site for many years and have loved seeing the progress. Really looki forward to the MD stuff. I did notice a couple of things I wanted to ask about:
    – left arm at impact. Looks a bit more bent at impact than address, almost as if you are lifting or pulling up on the club. Is that a conscious thing?
    – left shoulder through impact. Is there any shrugging motion? Like your using the shoulder shrug for additional leverage
    – wrist action, forearm rotation. Are you getting any forearm rotation and additional wrist cock at the top to lengthen the swing?

    Also, as I’m getting back into the game, was aiming to watch some videos do yours, but couldn’t find them(link was broken?). Should I wait for your MD analysis? I do like what you’ve got in progress so far…

    Looking forward to getting back into this!

    1. D Watts Post author

      Hi jdhas,

      Thanks for the kind words. I’ll see what I can do as far as your questions:

      1. You’ll find a lot of “power” swingers don’t impact the ball with a completely straight leading arm. Seems to be more of a mechanical thing, perhaps the arm does extended straight but then begins to bend before impact as it will have to fold in as the right arm extends through to the end. I can assure you there is no conscious effort to do this, so it has to be a mechanical thing.

      2. No shrugging motion. I don’t even think of the shoulders or any other part of the body on the down swing. It’s just get to the top, begin the weight shift and swing down & through to the finish!

      3. No conscious effort to rotate the forearms either, and I don’t try to get extra length on the swing with a wrist cock. I used to go way past parallel in previous swing years, due to a very steep leading arm at the top and a cupped left wrist, John Daly style. But no conscious effort, in fact it took me quite a while to adjust my top position so that the club stops somewhere around parallel.

      The videos are back up for download, at least the Classic Golf Swing MCS model – I should have something on the Dunaway or Post-Modern Swing model, if everything falls into place, by summer’s end. If not a completed video, at least something in the pipeline to work on as we enter autumn.

      Good to hear from you, I hope that helps!! 🙂

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