What Besides The Pivot Separates Classic From Post-Modern Models?

In a word, nothing – in theory.

Having worked on the MCS Post-Modern pivot over the winter while the blog was on hiatus, I eventually came to the conclusion that, other than the pivot action, there should be no difference between the principles driving the two swing models.

Here’s why – the setups will vary only slightly in the below-the-waist aspect, and that’s the action of the hips & legs.

Above the waist, the two swings should look nearly identical, and this is why I’ve been holding off any more publishing with regards to video or eBooks on the Classic swing version.

I said before taking a break that looking at the Dunaway model (what I call “Post-Modern”) improved my own MCS Classic Golf Swing action, because certain things are interchangeable between the two models.

For example, Jack Nicklaus had a move in his swing that I never emulated in my MCS model of the Classic swing, but the minute I began modeling Dunaway’s swing while watching his last videos (in addition to returning to Mike Austin’s videos in the parts pertaining to the pivot), I instantly saw what Nicklaus was doing.

By that, I mean here from address to where his club reaches parallel on the back swing:

Now, looking at my last swings when I was on Dunaway’s trail, I was getting there due to changes I’d made in my setup, but the swing was still a Classic Golf Swing and not the “shift-and-post” or Compound Pivot move:

If you look closely, you can see that the hips are still turning and the right hip moving behind me in that Hoganesque move, even though I had made changes to my setup and back swing move.

I was still getting more power and speed out of the model because, as I’ve said, the model is the model and your success will depend on how close to the theoretical model you get – the model I described in the “E = MCS” video.

I myself have not perfectly replicated that model, though I have gotten closer and the swings above are the closest I’ve come yet.  I am pretty confident I’d be even closer right now, were I to pick up a club and hit some balls, but that will have to wait until my region is out of Covid-19 lockdown.

When I get the season underway, I’ll be able to show how, if you follow the principles of “E = MCS,” you can maximize your MCS Classic Golf Swing action to optimal form, as well showing how, with one little stance adjustment, you can transition right into the MCS Post-Modern pivot action based on Mike Dunaway’s compound pivot action:

Of course, I’ll also be testing what I can do with both models with regards to speed, power & accuracy using the exact same equipment.

And before anyone wonders which model I’m betting on being better, I’m not – I don’t have a dog in this race, as neither model is mine.

One is a model of optimal method in swinging in the Classic Golf Swing way, the other is of course the model Mike Dunaway adapted from his mentor and used to become the Father of Modern Long Drive.

I am confident that Dunaway’s method will produce more speed, power & accuracy, but that remains for me to prove to myself and to WAX Nation.  Rest assured, I won’t be holding anything back with either model when I go for it.

I don’t know about you all, but I’m rarin’ to go!

4 thoughts on “What Besides The Pivot Separates Classic From Post-Modern Models?

  1. john1brady

    Excellent! I have appreciated all your work, insights and presentations. I also admire your courage to present your findings openly for consideration and even criticism with honesty and adaptability. That said I came here way back when for the Austin/Dunaway model so obviously I am pleased! Regarding the Austin model I have always noticed that Dunaway would have his lead knee bent through impact and then rise up straight after causing a bit of a bounce through impact whereas Austin’s knee was typically was already straight creating that much more of a smooth appearance. My favorite except was in the Peace River video in the “Impact and follow through” section where Austin instructs Dunaway on right elbow straightening through impact and Dunaway makes his prettiest swings after some free swings.

    1. D Watts Post author

      Hi John! Thanks for the kind words.

      Criticism is par for the course with any endeavour so I don’t let it stop me from doing what what I’m doing.

      I think you’ll really like what I’ve found, especially the manner in which you can execute a perfect “shift-and-post” pivot once you properly measure the stance & get the proper balance over the feet.

      I’ve got some good stuff for all of the old MA/MD crew, just waiting at the moment to get out to get it on video. I’ll be there when they open, you can be sure, then the fun really begins! 😀


  2. rosser001pga

    New Year 2020. Covid-19 Old News Big difference from the MCS , Jacks , and modern . Hope you find it when you get out . Happy Swinging ⛳️

    Michael Hoke Austin


    1. D Watts Post author

      Good to hear from you BR!

      I agree with you there’s a big difference – where we may differ is on the nature of the difference, but I’m pretty sure we’re going to be on the same side of the fence when I present my findings.

      Til then, take care & hopefully we’ll be discussing this sooner than later. 🤞

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