I Used A Combo Of Austin/Dunaway To Build My MCS “Dunaway/Post-Modern” Model

Part I Of A Series

I said in my last post that I would call the MCS model based on the “shift-and-post” swing model pioneered by Mike Austin the “Dunaway” only because the model I built looks exactly like how Dunaway swung and not Austin.

That said, the two swingers I studied worked off the same model, just with slightly varying stance and subsequently motion (Austin for example had a slightly wider stance than Dunaway used & he had more heel lift on the back pivot and impact position), so I looked at both to build the MCS version.

I have noticed that when one explanation or demonstration wasn’t quite clear for me, I would turn to the other swinger and most times get the clarity required.

On the pivot for example, I found it tricky to get the “shift-and-post” action the way I wanted it to work after having left that model in 2013 and having spent six subsequent years working on the “floating pivot” action based on Ben Hogan’s pivot.

Six years of swinging that way had ingrained a certain motion in my hips and legs that I had to over-ride with hundreds, thousands of reps of the drill I devised to get the desired action.

I started with the setup that Mike Dunaway demonstrated and explained in his various instructional videos and, when I got the right pivot action going, I immediately noticed that it wasn’t so much the way he described the pivot but the way his mentor, Mike Austin did.

First, I got accustomed to the action using Dunaway’s demonstrations:

… until I could feel everything moving seamlessly and eventually made the action that I knew was bang-on.

When I made the perfect pivot action, I felt the same action that M.A. demonstrated in his own instruction.

Looking below, you see the action of not a hip turn but the shift & post or “compound pivot” action which moves the hips and legs exactly the way one walks:

This synergy repeated time after time.  A piece from one, a slice from the other, and the result was what I wanted and needed to add to the puzzle of the swing from A-Z.

Take the setup for another example.  I used Dunaway’s description of the setup because it was easier to visualize than Austin’s description.

The one thing I did myself that neither did was find my perfect stance width not by using a measurement (that doesn’t work because everyone is built differently and one person might need a slightly narrower or wider stance than mine if I used precise ruler measurements), as M.A. did.

That said, I sill used Austin’s method of “measuring” the address and found (what should be) my optimal stance width by repeating what I had done in building the MCS “Classic Swing” model explained in my videos between 2014-2018, the MCS “Ben Hogan Project” to the “MCS Kinetic Chain” videos:

I found my optimal impact position with this model and then I knew exactly what my stance width should be.

I’ll never have to fumble around with the stance width ever again, because getting into one’s address or setup takes care of that if you know what your optimal impact position is.

I’ll be discussing more of this in subsequent posts – I’ve had a whole winter to think about and work on this swing in my spare time, so there’s lots to come!




13 thoughts on “I Used A Combo Of Austin/Dunaway To Build My MCS “Dunaway/Post-Modern” Model

  1. Roger Blinn

    You are right on the money! If today’s PGA players had these two Great teachers of the effort less golf swing. There would be a lot of these so called swing gurus out of business

    1. D Watts Post author

      I’ll go you one further Roger – they should be out of business regardless if they’re promoting the modern golf swing. Breaking backs and wrecking bodies the world over.

      The swing is not supposed to hurt. Period.

  2. David

    Right on DJ!! The pivot is a linear move with the right hip moving back as if walking backwards and not a turn. The turn concept had me moving to the right then left. The linear move with the right then left also takes care of any hip thrusting. Well done.

    1. D Watts Post author

      Thanks DK 🙂 Say hi to Nancy & the furry one. Golf courses still open where you are?

  3. David

    DJ, courses are still open and in perfect condition. All our Canadian friends have gone home. Pretty quiet with only golf open and take out at restaurants. Grocery stores are still crazy though. Nancy is still struggling with EBV, no golf in 18 months. New pup is just over a year and over 100 pounds. She chewed all the cups out of the putting green, geez. Hey to Renya!!

    1. D Watts Post author

      All the best to Nancy, DK – be careful out there and yes, 100 lbs is a big pup!!

  4. Walter

    Hi DJ, Great post, I’ve been studying M&M’s swings for a few years now and I now think I might have it down(it’s nice to have high ceilings in the living room ha-ha for winter training). I hear what you say about having to go back and forth watching each of their swings. Some things are easier to pick up watching one or the other.

    Stay safe and healthy and keep up the great posts.

      1. Walter

        DJ, Just rereading your post I’d have to agree with you about the left heel lift. Austin lifts his heel on both driver and irons, Dunaway doesn’t lift his heel on either or at least what I can see, if he does it can’t be more than a fraction of an inch. As for stance width, you think Austin had a wider stance, I would have to say Dunaway’s stance was wider, at least in the videos I’ve watched. Now that’s comparing the hip width to the feet. I watched maybe 12 or so different videos of both of them and it seems things changed for both of them during age changes from younger to older.
        Also what they both have shown in their slow demos(for example the skeleton suit or the plane demo Dunaway gives or even the wrist release) of a particular part of the swing is not the same as the full swing when slowed down, which in my opinion is what we should be looking at when wanting to copy their moves. What do you think?

        1. D Watts Post author

          Hi Walter!

          What you mention regarding Dunaway/Austin is exactly why I want to build an MCS version of the Compound Pivot model. Both of their swings evolved over the years but which way to swing was the optimal?

          I’m hoping that my research removes the “noise” of their variations and the MCS model is “the way they swung, and this is the optimal way to do it.”

          Just as I winnowed out the noise of the greatest Classic Golf swings to build what I view as the optimal Classic Golf Swing model in MCS, I would be delighted to get it done with the Compound Pivot! 😃


          1. Walter

            Hey DJ, sounds like a plan. Let me know when you get there as I’d be interested in seeing what your final optimal M&M version is compared to the way I see them.
            Cheers, and stay safe.

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