No Turn In The Down Swing – Driver & Iron

As I’ve been saying with regards to optimal technique for power production and accuracy/consistency, the tendency to turn toward the target during the down swing makes it very difficult to build a repeating swing without years and hours of practice and swinging.

It’s far easier to use the hips and legs to leverage the arms with the weight shift and the proper down swing action without trying to swing the arms and club by turning the body to the target.

The only turning toward the target that occurs is in the hips, but since you don’t need to think about that (you only have to shift the weight to the leading foot on the transition), I don’t recommend any thought whatsoever to turning anything.

Rather, you want to think “shift” and “down” when it comes to the swing if you’re coming from the top having made a proper pivot from the proper setup.

Watch the right shoulder drop during the 7 iron swing of mine below, and watch how there is no “turning” action in the shoulders or upper body until after the club shaft reaches parallel post-impact:


Notice how the right arm simply extends through the bottom as the right shoulder drops (or as the left shoulder rises, whichever one you prefer), with no attempt to turn to the target with the shoulders.

You’ll see much the same with the Driver swing as well through the bottom and post-impact phase to the “9 O’Clock” position:


Now, this is not to say that the shoulders aren’t turning – you have or want a 90 degree turn from the square position at address pivoting back to the top, and of course you want square shoulders at impact, but you haven’t turned the shoulders toward the target by impact:


What little turning there is from impact to the “9 O’Clock” position is not something you have to think about, as it will happen naturally through momentum.

If you think “shift, drop” or “shift, down” in the transition and forget about the target (you’re swinging at the ball, not the target), then you’ll likely find your ball-striking improving pretty quickly.

By following this same procedure myself, I have gone from swinging with an outside-in club path for most of the years of my swing research due to a number of factors such as having “open” shoulders to my hips because of scoliosis, to being left-handed swinging right-handed – from outside-in to inside out with a nice, baby-draw action when I swing naturally and freely:


Just remember that it all starts from the setup – you have to get that MCS setup right, before you even think about getting back down to the ball from the top of the back pivot.

I actually have made more progress working on my setup (and many times, working back from the desired impact position to adjust the setup), than I have by working on the mechanics.

The perfect mechanics won’t help you with an improper setup, just as even the Iron Byron won’t strike the ball properly and on line if you don’t set the machine and ball up properly – the setup matters!


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