No Wonder Tiger Woods Keeps Double-Crossing His Fade

This wouldn’t be the 1st thing that has Tiger Woods double-crossing himself – the whole “swing left” move where you’re coming down on plane and then trying to yank the club left at impact.

How can anyone be surprised when the ball goes left?!?

But now I’ve seen something else, while trying to decipher exactly what it is David Leadbetter is going on about in the Golf Digest article I came across yesterday.

You all know my thoughts on Leadbetter already, but let’s just deal with the issue of how TW has a history of yanking his tee shots left or, while trying to avoid that, blowing the ball way right.

The first thing I saw in the article and pictures was TW’s face on the back swing, at the “3 O’Clock” position:


You see that? Unless he’s trying to cook a hard draw, that is a pretty hooded club face for a guy who likes to “swing left” and hit a fade at the same time!

When he turned pro, his stock shape was a draw, so it could be a holdover from decades past, but I wouldn’t want to see a hooded face for a guy who is pulling the club left through impact.

But it sure would explain how a guy with exceptional hand-eye coordination can blaze it center-cut some days and other days can’t find the fairway with a lawnmower and a scorecard, wouldn’t you say?

Something else I saw in his setup vs impact, which is another factor in consistency or lack thereof:


Leadbetter has this to say, which makes me wonder what swing he’s looking at for the following analysis:

Another thing to note is that there is far less of a dip in Woods’ body from address to impact, Leadbetter says. “He’s still getting a lot of power from his lower body. In fact, his legs look fantastic as he changes direction. The knees separate, but there’s not as much squat. It’s got the look of Sam Snead’s swing.”

Umm… I would beg to differ with the two points I’ve bolded above – 1st of which, there is a lot of dip in TW’s body between address and impact, and you will never be able to compare Sam Snead’s beautiful and self-taught Classic Golf Swing move with Tiger Woods’ Modern, Dry-Body-Heave Golf Swing.

If you want to see what I mean, take a look at the two positions superimposed on each other:


I drew a red circle around TW’s head so you can see just how much that head moves back and down between his address and impact positions – and remember the Golden Rule of consistency and accuracy – head motion is not good for either.

That’s quite the harpoon…

Compare that to a swing model called MCS, where you want a very little amount of head movement between address and impact positions for maximum performance:


I’m not comparing myself to TW in any way shape or form when it comes to golfing or athletic ability, but if a 48 year old couch potato can drive the ball over 325 yards on demand with very little head motion between address and impact positions, how hard can it be for these guys who spent their entire lives practicing and playing golf?

Just asking the question…

Oh, and I’ve never had nor required back surgery because of how I swing a golf club.

Just saying…


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Lacking Power, Speed, Distance and or Consistency? 

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If You Answered “Yes” To Any Of The Above Questions, The Answer Is In The Formula For The Golf Swing:

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6 thoughts on “No Wonder Tiger Woods Keeps Double-Crossing His Fade

  1. FAS

    Yes I saw that article by Leadbetter. But one point I agree on is how Tiger continues to run on with the arms a tad after his shoulders have reached max turn. This leads to some sync probs on the way down according to Leadbetter. Sounds right to me. Do you agree with that?
    I remember some time ago Bernhard Langer said exactly that – something about don’t lift the arms after the shoulders have turned as far as they are going to.

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    1. D Watts Post author

      Hi FAS!

      TW has always done that, at least he’s been doing it for some time. It’s due to the disconnect between hips and shoulders swinging in the modern style, where you need a violent change of direction to begin the down swing.

      I’ve looked at some swings from earlier in the year (February):

      … and even years ago (January 2015):

      But that’s what he has to do to generate the leverage that he would have naturally but which he doesn’t, due to the restricted hip back swing.

      He can get a full shoulder turn because of his extraordinary flexibility, but there’s no leverage. So he keeps the arms going a little after the hips stop, in order to get that change of direction with the firing of the hips and the harpoon drop.

      He’s always done that, with the harpoon head drop to start the transition down… don’t know if Leadbetter has just noticed that, but it’s nothing new.

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  2. targettom

    DJ you closed comments on another blog post (“When Building A House”) so I’ll comment here if you dont mind. In that post you had a gif re “The Drop”. I saw that, showed it to my wife. We both concentrated on that today. Amazing. Her clubhead speed with the woods leapt from the mid 70’s to the low 90’s. I was hitting my 8 iron 180 (old range balls, 2* here, so not ideal). Gained distance on the driver too. Many thanks big guy.

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    1. D Watts Post author

      I actually didn’t intentionally close the comments on that posting , Tom – the site settings close off comments after 2 wks, perhaps I should adjust them to make it a little longer period.

      And yes, that “Drop” action is what you get when you set up properly and perform that pivot then the proper weight shift on the transition! 🙂

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