Looking At The “Push” & “Throw” Aspects Of The Down Swing

I’ve been working on my pivot in the down days of the off-season and once again, because I’m always lagging behind the MCS Golf Swing theory in practice, I’m only now beginning to really get into the “tight pivot” aspects of the leveraged down swing.

It’s something I’ve learned to live with – because of the nature of studying motion and analyzing swings, I always figure out the mechanics first with regards to the way I would tell people to do it, and it takes a while before I get around myself to applying the principles properly.

Since I don’t play golf for a living, that suits me fine – I don’t mind if people get the benefit of my research for their own swings before I do, because I eventually get there myself.

Right now, I’m looking at the “Push” or “Throw” part of the “Drop & Pop” but it all goes back to the setup and the back swing pivot to set this move up properly.

push-pull


I think that those of you who have been here throughout the years and know all about the “throw” release concept (you swing the club as if throwing it with the power or trailing arm) will be as excited as I am about this!

Here are two different “Throw” motions, the first of which is a “skipping stone” motion:

 


You’ll find that the “skipping stone” motion I am using above is not very different from the “throw release” action demonstrated by Mike Austin back in the 60’s:


 

So, what does all of this have to do with the concept of the “One Major Move” and the “tight pivot,” since those are back swing concepts and the “throw release” is a down swing concept?

I introduced the concept of the “tight pivot” this past season, which I discussed in the “MCS – The Kinetic Chain” video, and as with all of my discoveries on mechanics, I like to break everything down and re-assemble it, to see if there’s anything else I can find therein, or even if I can simplify a motion or sequence further.

That’s what happened with the “One Major Move” – I had figured out and explained the concept behind the “One Major Move” last year before getting around this year to distilling the concept and action to its basic form.

There is mechanical-correctness, I’ve been saying, and there is mechanical-optimal, and why stop at simple correctness when optimal gives you better performance?

Therefore, the only way to improve your “throw” or “push” action in the “Pop” segment of the “Drop & Pop” is to optimize your back pivot and top position.

As for throwing motions, here is a motion below from a video on the MCS swing motion that goes back to 2013, in the “New MCS” series on the swing action:


Notice that I was able to nail a ball sitting on the ground in the rough area it would be for the driver, throwing another golf ball at it.

I went back this morning to look at the two latter gifs (and I made the “skipping stones” gif today) because I had an “aha” moment swinging the SwingRite yesterday.

Mike Dunaway


What I saw in those “throw” gifs this morning made me go back and look at the Father of Modern Long Drive, Mr. Mike Dunaway, and what I see in his swing confirms my “aha” moment:


I will be doing some more mechanical analysis and then some personal testing at the TXG Golf facility in the coming weeks, and I’ll have more for you all then if my suspicions bear fruit.

I have no doubt what I’ll find however – my personal journey (figuring out, creating a model and then performing the ultimate and optimal golf swing) is taking yet another step to bring me closer to fulfillment!


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9 thoughts on “Looking At The “Push” & “Throw” Aspects Of The Down Swing

  1. Walter

    Hi DJ, You’ve made quite a few references to Mike and Mike’s swing, what’s your feelings on his early wrist cock release. I recall in one of his videos where Mike D. is showing his downswing and commenting on his early wrist cock release. Saying that to the normal persons eye that he appears to be casting, I think his words were” Jimedy Christmas that guy is casting his club on the downswing-or something like that”. He says he’s not casting but that it’s the start of throwing the club head at the ball, compared to most pros whose wrists are still 90% fully cocked position when they reach the bottom position in the swing.
    Thanks again for the interesting reading.

    1. D Watts Post author

      Hi Walter, thanks for the kind words and you’re more than welcome!

      I have been very critical of analysts on TV calling a proper and free release “casting,” or “flipping,” which it certainly isn’t. Leadbetter even said that Tony Finau was “flippy,” which couldn’t be further from the truth.

      A “cast” or “flip” occurs when the hands and/or body stop on the down swing and the club head catches up to and passes the hands before the swing bottom. The sad truth is that a proper release looks like a flip because many players, including the pros, try to “stiff-wrist” the ball at impact, which actually slows the club head down:

      Releasing after impact does nothing to add power to the ball. One must release into and through the swing bottom like a natural pendulum does:

      Anything else is a manipulation. But you already know that 😉

      1. Walter

        Hi DJ, Thanks for your reply and explanation, I assume that was for Mike’s swing. Who is the guy in the GIF you show at the 7th tee(no not you, the other one, ha-ha)? He appears to hold his wrist cock angle a little longer than Mike D. does, I can’t tell on your gif but I think yous is the same or close to Mike’s. Stiff – wristing, do you mean holding the wrist cock until the very last uS before turning the wrists over. Yes it would seem that most pros do that and that also seems to be the way instructors(to the pros) like to teach it. After watching Mike’s explanation(years ago) that one made more sense to me from a head speed standpoint rather than uncocking the wrists at the bottom of the swing to get head speed, which would require uS timing to get it right(sq face) each time.

        1. D Watts Post author

          Yes, MA’s action would be the same as what I’m doing – here’s a great angle to show how freely the club comes down and through impact:

          There is nothing “flippy” or “casting” about this action. Pure power.

          The other swinger, by the way, is Jordan Spieth – one of the crookedest drivers on Tour and a very short hitter for a 6’1″ athlete…kind of proves the point, doesn’t it?

          1. Walter

            Oh that’s Jordan Spieth, yes he’s anything but straight with his driver. Just curious, what is the length and swingweight of your driver?

            1. D Watts Post author

              Currently using a Ping G20 until I can find something that I really like. Regular length, couldn’t tell you the swingweight! 🙂 I imagine it’s a standard swingweight however since it is an off-the-rack club.

            2. Walter

              So I’m guessing standard 45.5″ probably D2 or D3. Maybe the next time you’re over at TXG you can get Ian to run you thru the driver testing. Didn’t you hear, the new drivers are so much longer and straighter, hmmm, maybe that was last years spiel or was that the year before last I’ve lost track. Of course you might also leave there with a $700 invoice too, ha-ha.

            3. D Watts Post author

              I met and have seen Ian both trips to TXG. Great facility, great guy. If I’m going to buy a custom-fitted driver – that’s the place I’ll be going for it!

            4. Walter

              I’ve watched a number of their Utube vids, some of it very interesting. Even there it seems like Matt is constantly upgrading/changing his driver setup(head/shaft).

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