How Far Would Dustin Johnson Drive It With MCS?

I ask this because it seems like a lot of effort that he makes for a superb athlete standing 6’4″ to drive it 300 carry and 310 total distance.

I found a Tweet from the PGA Tour’s account showing DJ (that one) hitting driver with some stats.

And to be honest, I am a little underwhelmed by something the PGA Tour finds to be so impressive:

One a drive shown in the Tweet, he gets these numbers:

  • Launch Angle – 10.59 degrees
  • Carry Distance – 301.1 Yards
  • Total Distance – 309.6 Yards
  • Club Impact Speed – 121.81 MPH
  • Ball Speed – 182.21 MPH


When you look at the face-on view of this drive, it seems to me to be a good deal of effort put into a swing that produced roughly 122 mph club speed and 182 mph ball speed, doesn’t it?

Watch the hyper-twist of the back (Yellow) and the jumping leading foot (Red):


All of that for a 122 mph club impact speed?

“So, DJ,” I can hear you asking, “What gives?”

The answer is to be found in DJ’s Launch Angle and in his stock impact position, as seen below on a different swing, but you can see that DJ leads the club head into the ball with the hands, producing a negative shaft angle:


You’ll remember if you watched the intro to the upcoming “MCS – The Kinetic Chain” video that I posted yesterday, I said that MCS would allow one to produce a positive or upward Attack Angle even with a negative shaft (meaning the shaft is leaning forward like an iron or wedge, instead of the optimal backward lean for the modern equipment).

So, DJ is likely getting some positive Attack Angle even with the negative shaft at impact, but with 10.59 degrees Launch Angle, he’s not getting much, with a 9.5 degree driver loft. Looks like about +1 degree.

Contrast that to the swing motion I used at the TXG Golf facility to produce 117-119 mph club impact speed and a good deal more than 10 degrees Launch Angle:


On the 5 drives for which I posted data from that May 26 session, I averaged 13.56 degrees Launch Angle, and that’s with an 8 degree lofted Driver!

And yet, the average carry on those drives was 302.8 yards and average total was 324.6 yards.

The Attack Angle average on those drives – how about +4.5 degrees?

Incidentally, the optimal Attack Angle as determined by research is about +4 degrees.

And there’s your difference between a swing motion like mine with the MCS Golf Swing model, with no snapping or jumping foot, no twisting of the middle and lower back to get the shoulder turn, and longer drives with a lower club and ball speed.

It’s in the technique.

Dustin Johnson is a far superior athletic specimen to me, to which you can add that I don’t work out or even hit balls regularly, in addition to being 48 years old – he should be blowing my doors off with driving distances and things like club and balls speed – I’ve gotten into the high 180s in ball speed when I swing more regularly as I did last summer and years prior.

The difference is that he’s using a Modern Golf Swing model and I use a mechanically-correct Classic Golf Swing model, more specifically the MCS model.

Remember however that this posting is not about me.  I’m just looking at what I can do swinging a club in my spare time, versus what someone with a lot more talent and athleticism than myself does playing the game for a living.

This year, I’ve swung very little, so my ball speed has been around 170 mph with a high in the low 180s mph when I was swinging a little more during the spring – but my swing research is over and I don’t swing much at all – I haven’t hit a ball in over two weeks, in fact.

But I could still drive a ball well over 300 yards if you give me a club and balls right now!

It’s all in the technique – I developed the optimal golf swing model and my Launch Monitor numbers will tell you that when you look at club speed and ball speed vs distance, and when you look at the Attack Angle and Launch Angle numbers.

So, imagine what an athlete like Dustin would be doing with a swing model that gave him maximum performance for his effort.

Hint: He’d be in long drive competition territory.


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9 thoughts on “How Far Would Dustin Johnson Drive It With MCS?

  1. targettom

    I have seen other WITB’s which say he lofts up as much as 11.0 to 11.5 on his driver in actual loft, as opposed to apparent loft, probably to compensate for the forward shaft lean

    1. D Watts Post author

      Wouldn’t surprise me, because he’s not getting anywhere near the performance from his driver that he should should be. Not even close.

    1. D Watts Post author

      That is insane. Scott has a modern planted-heel pivot. Snead had a free hip turn and high leading heel. Snead was also monster-long, and Scott isn’t.

      Other than that, sure – exactly the same!! 😉

      1. Jason

        Precisely. They followed that gem up with a comment on Tiger’s “perfect position” at the top, pretty much at the worst moment he was cranking his back.

    1. D Watts Post author

      He made a lot of scrambling saves, that’s for sure. Too bad he can’t hit the broad side of a barn off the tee. He not only struggled with the driver, but missed a bunch of fairways with irons this weekend.

  2. Jason

    Yes, a shame. Btw DJ, you took down your old analysis of Brooks Koepka – forgot what you had written on his swing (though I could probably guess since he’s also a modern swinger).

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