MCS Takes Out The Hand Action – And This Will Shock You

If you are an old holdover WAXer from the days of Mike Austin swing modeling, you will be shocked perhaps to learn that M.A. was neither correct nor incorrect about his “reverse” or pronating right hand action on the back swing.

For those who are unfamiliar with this term, in his later years, Austin advocated the reverse motion to “fanning” the club face, which would have one turning the right palm face-up on the back swing.

The “pronating” action would have one turning the right palm downwards, presumably to keep the club face square to the ball instead of turning up on the takeaway.

This was something I first tried and recommended before I discarded it as having too much hand action in the swing, not to mention the fact that Austin had come up with this after his debilitating stroke which left his right side nearly completely paralyzed, so he never actually tried it himself.

Well, hold onto your hats, because I have just demonstrated for myself that it doesn’t matter which of the actions you make, provided you have the MCS standard grip, which is the neutral grip!

Performing the two actions in addition to making no conscious effort to work the hands, I will show in the upcoming “MCS – Project 2018” video that you will end up with the same top position when you perform the proper MCS pivot action with the “One Major Move,” if you have the proper neutral grip.

It may change the look and angle of the club face as you take it back, of course, but from the top to the “3 O’Clock” position I’ve shown in the “EMCS – The Follow-Up” video which demonstrates the half-way down position:

… that being the position you get to in the “Drop” from the “Drop & Pop” action through the swing bottom – you will end with the exact same position and club face angle no matter which way you work the hands going back!

I only discovered this by accident, while I was working on my back swing and top position using the newer and flatter plane on which I’m swinging – so it’s yet another thing that goes to prove the MCS Golf Swing model as the mechanically-optimal action in its theoretical form.

That means Mike Austin was neither correct nor incorrect when he insisted on this change to his model after his swinging days had ended – he was correct that you could swing in this manner, absolutely, and I believe that he was thinking of the club face in relation to the ball on the back swing.

However, if you end up in the same position at the top (that being the correct position from which to swing down and through without making compensating moves), then you will have the same “3 O’Clock” position when you make the “Drop,” and you should be returning to impact with your club face exactly as you had it when you set up – square!

Now, if you’re wondering what I mean by having the proper position at the top when you make the “One Major Move,” well that’s part of the proving part of the upcoming video – the “E = MCS” swing video broke the swing fundamentals down into the simplest components and nothing in the model has changed.

What has changed is my own performance of the swing model to make it closer to the theory, and of course I’ll be sharing every little tidbit about why the theory is correct, so bear with me ’til I get it finished and out to you, my friends!

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4 thoughts on “MCS Takes Out The Hand Action – And This Will Shock You

  1. David

    DJ, we have to quit doing this …. I have been studying both takeaways as well. The Austin counter rotation and the more conventional flare. I have been doing the counter rotation for several years. My short game which is pretty fricken amazing 🙂 is based on it. I have noticed that it is not what you employ so I have been tinkering as well. I too have found no difference in results with either technique.

    I’ll have to check in later and see what I will be working on next LOL Great minds. Now, more leverage. BTW … doing better today, he has shown himself to be a great caddie for both of us. Thanks buddy.

    1. D Watts Post author

      DJ, we have to quit doing this …. I have been studying both takeaways as well…. I too have found no difference in results with either technique.

      And that, in a nutshell, is the context of the post, DK! That’s also why you keep taking money from your playing partners – you are MCS through and through, and that makes you hard to beat.

      Glad to hear you’re doing better – I believe it was about 5 years ago that we first began to discuss MCS and the swing over Skype and Frisco was there as well – in fact, he was responsible indirectly for the first installment of what has become the DKondo Golf Lab, wasn’t he?

      Wonderful memories, you have no shortage of. Treasure them. 🙂


  2. Jeff

    I’m a counter rotating guy. Became a convert right before I discovered MCS. I would argue it is easier to consistently get to the correct spot at the top (or at least closer to it) with a counter rotation than with a more traditional rotation.

    Hold that trailing wrist back and do the master move but deliberately try to get to a bad position at the top – almost impossible to end up any where but in the right spot without feeling really uncomfortable.

    Now master move and try and roll your wrist to a bad position and you can do it easy peasy. Could just be because I am so ingrained with it that I feel that way, but it seemed that way from the start for me. As you get the right spot at the top, doesn’t really matter, of course. Just my personal observation.

    1. D Watts Post author

      I agree with your points, Jeff! While it doesn’t matter which way you do it if you get to the proper top position, one of the ways might work better for one and the other for someone else.

      I was making back swing pivots with a “feel” of bowing my left wrist, though it wasn’t actually bowed, just flat (but it will “feel” bowed if you’re used to the feeling of a slight cup in the left wrist), and at one point, I said to myself, “I could swear this is a counter-rotation move…” and it was.

      But then I made back swing pivots without it and as long as I kept the right elbow from flying… same wrist and hand position at the top.

      For me, the counter-rotation move helps me keep the right elbow tighter and not get overly long with the back swing. But as I’ll be demonstrating in the video, you get the same top position with any of the 3 ways I know how to use the hands and wrist.

      Good points! 😀

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