The Day I Hit At Least 130 MPH Club Speed

All of this ball speed and club speed talk has reminded me of the day I was trying out the Geek Dot-Com-This driver I had received from Jerry Crowell, the teaching and playing pro with whom I worked on his swing a couple of years back.

I hadn’t used it much because for some reason, many of the balls I hit with it would go right, which made me think the shaft wasn’t stiff enough.

The shaft is a Matrix Black Tie X-Flex, and the Geek head has a loft of 6 degrees, which would be right up my alley.

Anyways, it’s virtually brand new – I did take it out a couple of times when I was planning on producing an MCS Long Drive video, and it’s with this club that I know for a fact that I produced at least 130 mph club speed with it, based on the ball speeds I produced.

I was getting high 180s with the first few swings, but when I put aside all thoughts of taking it easy and just went after it, I got into the 190s, the highest one being at 195 mph ball speed with a few others in the 190-194 mph range after I got out the camera to record some swings following the 195 reading.

Now, based on this being a new club (old clubs, when they are ready to cave it, have slightly thinner faces due to the impact forces put upon them and will produce higher than 1.5 Smash due to increased trampoline effect), and taking into account the highest possible Smash Factor rating of 1.5, that would mean a ball speed of 195 mph would have to have had a minimum club speed of 130 mph.

“Geek… Dot-Com-This, Baby…”

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Taking into account that I likely wasn’t hitting the exact center of the sweet spot, if you gave me a lower Smash than 1.5, it would only increase the club speed – it would be 132 mph with a 1.475 Smash.

I hope you’ll forgive the form I’m showing on these swings, as they are not what I’d call optimal now, but that was what I was doing for long drive swinging back in the fall of 2015.


I talked about throwing out results of 135 mph club speed and 195 mph ball speed averages for a launch monitor on which I took readings from 5 swings because I never duplicated anything close to 135 mph in club speed on any monitors, but I’m wondering now if the ball speeds and distances (350 yards) were accurate and the club speed was the one thing that was off.

It’s possible, and while I still think that monitor was off, a Swing Speed Radarย device will give you accurate ball speeds if not club speed (as with most radar devices, the ball speed will be on and the club speeds will vary with accuracy).

The 137 mphย club speed reading I did get with the SSR on club speed back in August of 2013, I wouldn’t take to the bank:

Hmmm… Don’t Know About THAT…


… because it can vary with club speed accuracy.

If you want accurate club speeds, something with high-speed cameras that track the actual club head (like DK’s Foresight Quad that he mentioned today in the Tiger Woods posting) will do it, but radar will always get you the ball speed.

So, with a ball speed of 195 mph, you need a minimum 130 mph club speed, and I am talking about the Geek driver because I just discovered something that explains my right misses with it.

I was using it today to practice my setup with an actual driver, and I noticed that the sweet spot wasn’t where I would set up with the ball at address – I wanted to be sure, so I took a marker and put a little red dot on the crown at the top of the face, directly above the sweet spot and…

Yes indeed – I’ve been hitting this driver all along with the ball set up off-center from the sweet spot, because I was putting the ball in what looks like the middle of the face – but because there’s no aiming notch or arrow on the crown, I was always off the sweet spot with it.

And yes, that’s a silly mistake to make with a club, but as I said, there’s no marking on the top of the club above the sweet spot and I was just using what looked like the center, when the sweet spot is closer to the heel than the toe if you look at my improvised aiming notch.

So, because I have always liked this driver but could never play with it because of the tendency to miss right too much, I am going to take another shot at seeing what I can do with it.

A long drive club will not cave in on me, or at least it won’t for quite some time, and I’d rather use it than a store-bought driver from the major makers, considering my last TaylorMade driver cracked on me last summer:


Not blaming the maker, but I do put a little more mustard on the ball than the usual person, and a long-drive head is built to take that kind of punishment.

I was considering getting a Nemesis SMT driver head on a regular length shaft (I have a couple of SMT long drivers), but I’ll hold off on that until I’ve taken another crack at the Geek in the coming weeks.

It’s a very nice driver, feels very balanced, almost light-weight, and virtually swings itself – just have to hit it on the sweet spot and not towards the toe!

And of course, I will want to see if I can put some decent ball speed numbers up with this club using my newly-adjusted MCS Golf Swing technique…

So yeah, all that buzz about professional players getting 180 mph ball speed gives me new appreciation for the confirmed 195 under my own belt!


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7 thoughts on “The Day I Hit At Least 130 MPH Club Speed

  1. David

    DJ, the post you did the other day showing the SW Summit and your sore back you were hitting my 6 degree Geek. It fit you like a glove ๐Ÿ™‚ Maybe that is your club.

    Great day on the course today. No 130 mph club speed but dead straight drivers and irons for the most part. 73 with 3 birdies, 2 bogeys and a double to win the team match play. Finished 2nd in the Club Championship this past weekend and have the Seniors in 2 weeks. Gosh it is fun knowing where the ball is going ๐Ÿ™‚ Everyday it gets better and better. Thanks so much.

    1. D Watts Post author

      That’s some nice MCS style golf there DK, way to go!

      … dead straight drivers and irons for the most part. … Gosh it is fun knowing where the ball is going ๐Ÿ™‚ Everyday it gets better and better.

      It certainly is, and I couldn’t be happier to have helped in any way ๐Ÿ˜€

      PS – Saw your last posted swing on Instagram, you’re probably getting the odd miss when you don’t get that spine tilt, just keep an eye on that and you’ll be shooting your age soon!

    2. D Watts Post author

      Was this the Geek, DK? Or was it the other driver of yours, as I seem to recall having taken some cuts with two of your sticks?

      This swing looks positively ancient, by the way – still had the angled stance and what a long back swing!

      As you said in your comment, you only get better and better when you MCS your swing! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    1. D Watts Post author

      Yes, Bret, there certainly is – you would put the SSR on the ground laying face up, bottom towards you, about 2 paces away, on the line that you intend to hit your driver. If you get the ball directly over your SSR, you will get a very accurate reading of your ball speed.

      Warning: I would advise putting something between yourself and the SSR, in the off chance you hit a low ball, so that you don’t destroy your SSR with a direct hit! Something low profile, just high enough to block or deflect the ball so that it doesn’t hit the SSR is you drive a worm-burner.

      You can see I’ve got a old club shaft on the ground for that reason here below, pegged in place with some tees:

      That’s about it ๐Ÿ™‚

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